Velvet Vices

Jackson and Taylor discuss the challenges of quitting smoking, the nuances of liking or disliking celebrities, the impact of stan culture on artists, and the complexities of celebrity culture and fandoms. The conversation also delves into the ethics of fan fiction and the importance of visuals in pop culture, all while sharing personal anecdotes and reflections on their favorite artists and shows.

Timestamps

00:00 Cheap wine and quitting smoking

21:30 Communicating through "stanning" and the evolution of fandoms